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Post by FiraazZ on Apr 5, 2021 17:51:41 GMT
Mage Leaderboards 2021
Based on cws done since return, mixed games, duels, etc. Tier 1 - Frodosam
- Merlin
- Angelus
Tier 2 - Morgothi
- Strider
- Uri
- Quegga
- MAV
- Olorin
- Darklion
- Arnii
- Piggy
Tier 3 - Ding
- Uk Henry
- Lhii
- Gwindor
- Rektdalf
- Paladin
Tier 4 - Miraak
- Mithrandir
- Toinou
- Onde
- Target
Honorable mention Tier 2:Taco,Panos7 Honorable mention Tier 3: Mai Mai,Simon
Sorry guys no idea what to write in mages description. If any1 would be interested hit me up on PM. Also images for mage leaderboards disappeared.
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Post by Lhii on Apr 6, 2021 1:25:30 GMT
very nice, Frodo the god !
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Post by -{TacTic}-Frodosam on Apr 6, 2021 18:29:39 GMT
Mage is such a noob class that even descriptions arent worth it xD
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Post by FiraazZ on Apr 9, 2021 9:14:00 GMT
I feel like i fucked up once again by not making descriptions. It's not about mage being noob class. Its about me being lazy and noob.
I was trying to write sth but i ended up repeating myself and changing words from "very good" to "good" to "average". I honestly don't know what to write about mage.
We ranked mages according to killing capacity (mainly tdm these days), teamwork, how they support their team and ability to protect themselves mainly from warris... etc And i think its mostly ranked correctly (except myself, who put me there?)
Frodo does everything above best. I did see a little bit of Angelus and Merlins mage and well... Still beast like in old days. Morgothi is closest to tier 1. Just would need to see him more.
I feel like mage class has still potential. I played a lil bit of open class on Helms Deep against Henry and there are still ways to beat even top warriors in 1v1. I started weak but started to comeback after a while. It's a matter of timings. Maybe different class limits would also increase mage potential and make them more beast of a class.
I still think mage is broken when theres too many of them lol
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Post by -{TacTic}-Frodosam on Apr 9, 2021 11:20:09 GMT
I feel like i fucked up once again by not making descriptions. It's not about mage being noob class. Its about me being lazy and noob. I was trying to write sth but i ended up repeating myself and changing words from "very good" to "good" to "average". I honestly don't know what to write about mage. We ranked mages according to killing capacity (mainly tdm these days), teamwork, how they support their team and ability to protect themselves mainly from warris... etc And i think its mostly ranked correctly (except myself, who put me there?) Frodo does everything above best. I did see a little bit of Angelus and Merlins mage and well... Still beast like in old days. Morgothi is closest to tier 1. Just would need to see him more. I feel like mage class has still potential. I played a lil bit of open class on Helms Deep against Henry and there are still ways to beat even top warriors in 1v1. I started weak but started to comeback after a while. It's a matter of timings. Maybe different class limits would also increase mage potential and make them more beast of a class. I still think mage is broken when theres too many of them lol Descriptions may be nice to read but I know they take much time to write. So why we dont remove descriptions at all (for all classes in future) or maybe only mention really outstanding things) add add categories instead which we assign points. You already mentioned relevant categories: - Killing Capacity - Team Support - Strategic thinking etc. That would also make players much better comparable. Each category could have a difference priority, e.g. for archer killing capacity is more important than for mage. Then we would only have to update the category points for each player and the leaderboards updates itself. Tiers are then created by defining thresholds (e.g. points > 50 = tier 1)
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Post by FiraazZ on Apr 9, 2021 11:29:43 GMT
That could much better yes. I was thinking about making descriptions for best players only in the future (tier 1 and tier 2). Because there are few things which can define them. Players in tier 3 or lower are also good players but dont have defining characteristics which makes it hard to write descriptions for them. They become... more boring lower you go in rankings.
We wanted to change Tiers in future updates anyways, because old ones dont fit that much these days (level in some classes are really similiar). I wanted to do something like your example. Rate few points of any players. But it will still require time to get to good rating system.
Like reffering to last clanwars for archer class. Some archers had better k/d ratios than other but does that make them much better? For some maybe but other archers could play more agressive to ensure that atleast this one base belongs to their team. Other could support his team in attacking one base and different archer would rotate over whole map trying his best to ensure win is possible for his team. It's really hard to say who was best performing archer (everyone knows It's Angelus) or worst (me).
I will get the outline of new leaderboards in my free time. Will update archer first probably. After 2nd round of clanwars probably.
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